What is the most important factor in finding girls for sex?
 

I wanna hear your guys opinions on what factor in a guy will make a normal women (as in not working ladies) want to sleep with you easier?

Firstly i'm asking here in this section because i want to hear a much more serious point of view. As it is a real life matter rather than fantasy.

Secondly i'm referring to attracting normal girls for sex. Not working ladies. And purely just for sex. FWB / One night stands... or play play relationship. Not referring to long term relationship girlfriend kind of sex.

I understand many times in life money can override everything, so would you think that,

1. Having good looks / good body
2. Knowing how to sweet talk
3. Having alot of money


I'll chip in my own later as i don't want to lead the answers.

Now let's hear from you :)

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One word sums it all... Charisma.. Its not about looks only... its the whole damn package

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Young and Handsome bah:p

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I think the most important consideration is how trustworthy is the lady.She can be beautiful, nice body but behind u moonlight with other guys.

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Communication is number 1 factor, and understanding the girls' needs (eventually hitting the right buttons for sex)! Communicate well, one probably can have an ONS by tonight!

Yes charisma and nvr show that you are so desperate,cool and steady shld be the way to conduct yourself

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Depends on the girl and what turns her on. All girls are different. From their background, to nationality, to culture, to language.

I lost track of the number of girls I shagged that don't fall in the area of paid sex. I can try to illustrate the differences with a few of those I can still remember.

- 2 Thai girls I rode in very late 2014. Both of them are good friends whom I helped out of kindness when they were bullied in Singapore by a crappy hotel staff who overswiped their credit card and refused to pay back. My intervention escalated the situation but got their money back. I found another better hotel for them at a much cheaper rate and spent the night bringing then around. I guess they let me fuck them both out of gratitude as the positivity we built during the whole evening helped a lot.

- Thai girl I helped while lounging in Bangkok when she was harrassed by a drunk caucasian. Chatted the night and built the positivity between us which led to 1 night of endless bonks.

- PRC northern girl who is a customer of a friend. I helped my friend to deliver the mobile phone to this PRC northern girl who happened to have lost it at the eatery where my friend worked. Sent it over to a grateful PRC girl with very voluptuous figure and fair complexion. She wanted to thank me for the help by buying me dinner. We had a good chat but I did the unimaginable by footing the bill with the standard toilet excuse. This paved the way for a 2nd meet up. We went drinking at Clarke Quay and I paid her share after I enjoyed myself so much. She wasn't pleased so we went into a hotel and I creampied her that night. We maintained this relationship for a few months as she went with birth control after that pregnancy close shave on the first night. We went to KL, Malacca, Batam always clubbing before exciting sex. We ended our relationship when she went back to China after her boss closed down the outlet she was working at. Her loneliness played a part and my appearance at the right time doing the right thing was crucial.

- Another PRC girl who was working as a preschool teacher who was crying at the car park where I just went for a massage. I approached her and asked if she was OK. Gave her some tissue to dry her tears and tried to talk to her. It turned out that she was beaten by her PRC bf again. I brought her for dinner as she had not taken her dinner and drove her around to forget about the problems. Gave her my thoughts about her case and found her bf is an arranged marriage by her parents who insisted her to marry. We didn't do anything that day but she did cry on my shoulder and I held her hand and exchanged wechat ID. I followed up to make sure she was OK the next day and things normalized. We continued to chat and one night she messaged me on wechat out of the blue asking me for help. Her bf was making a din outside her rental flat and it was disturbing her neighbours. By the time I arrived, there were police officers arresting a man who looked very agitated. She was crying and so I brought her out that night to get a breath of fresh air. We chatted about many stuffs and of course fucked her that night. I think she was trying to do something that will psychologically build her resolve to leave the abusive bf whom she was trapped by obligation with. Having sex with another man happens to be the best way.

- PRC nurse working in one of the major hospitals. I was visiting my colleague when I witnessed another family verbally abusing at a PRC nurse with nationality discrimination. I　 stood up for her by telling the family off. I think that created a good impression. Her colleagues streamed in and tried to explain the confusion while she was noticeably tearing up. When I was leaving the hospital, I bumped into her at the ground floor and asked if she was OK. Struck up a conversation and I guess it created a good impression. We went for supper and drove around, shared common interests like travelling and found that she 'drinks socially'. I suggested going on a trip to KL on the weekend and she agreed. This means she is open to sex. Didn't have to make things clear. We drove up to KL, shared a room and partied. Of course shagged her several times in the night.

The only consistency is a positive experience regarding my first impression to them. Good conversation holding, helpful and sensitive to their needs. They want sex but they need a good reason to have sex with me, so provide that reason. Many things go tacit and you need to read signs. Don't sound/look desperate. Look confident, don't be calculative with money, there is no free lunch in the world. Having a car helps but it is not a must. You can compensate it with Grab nowadays with good planning on where to go.

Good luck.

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Wow bro nice story. Quick question, do you think there is a difference between getting Singaporean ladies, or PRC?

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Those are just recollections of my memory. Not fictitious stories.

Singaporean ladies are predominantly a mixture of racists, self entitled, lazy and being fat. They are also very risky to handle. There is a history of Singaporean women reneging on their sexual encounters with men they find disposable giving you endless nightmares. I shun them normally.

Thai, Vietnamese, PRC women are culturally more liberal and less inclined to capitalize on the legal leverage of women in Singapore. Anyway, they don't get anything out of it unless you really piss them off. So I stick to them.

I find PRC easier because of a language advantage and stronger availability of PRC women doing normal jobs here.

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Haha sorry I don't mean it that way. I meant that I appreciate the sharing of your past. I think singaporean ladies are slightly different in this sense. The funny thing is some woman needs the commitment in order for anything physical to happen.

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Singaporean women are in general very different from foreign women. But maybe your experience might differ.

Being Caucasian or wealthy helps a lot on top of being good looking, humourous and charismatic. Takes a lot more to get someone who lacks the overall package in giving a positive experience. Not worth it. I had a few experiences which I hate to be reminded of.

Once I met a local fat girl whom I just wanted to be nice to without ulterior motive. She ate like a pig at the restaurant and when I sent her home like a gentleman, no touchy, no hanky panky, she was still ok but suddenly when someone walked by, she shouted at me that she will never sleep with me and called me a creep when I have not even floated that crazy idea of doing that.. I was really caught by both shock and embarrassment.

Another time when I went to meet a local girl from a car club for a meal. Also, clean and respectful outing with no hanky panky. we were ok throughout but my friends started telling me later this girl went around telling others I molested her one day during a group outing. She was actually interested in another guy whom she was trying to catch his attention.

I got several other horror stories.
Local girls? Hell no...

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Thank you for sharing your stories. I think it'd also be good to share the not so good stories also as there such to be things we can take away from it.

May i know if you are Caucasian or Good Looking? :)

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Fully agreed on this

In short; you’re asking how to get laid for free.
First and foremost, It’s quite disheartening to see that Escorts/Fls are labelled as non normal girls. Sorry to burst your bubble but we are all under the Homo sapiens umbrella. I found these stereotypes and and misconceptions about escorting experience to always be false during my 3 months dabbling in this alter ego. (Feel free to check out my thread) (and NO; I’m not here to promote my arse but to shed some lights to the ‘stereotypes’ and ‘labels’). Disclaimer: I do not speak for all the FLs out there but me.

1. Apologies amigo, but nothing is free. You’re actually trading your precious time for a ‘chance’ to get laid liken to a baccarat; the date being the ‘house’ at most instances. And most times; a date wouldn’t be free as well.
2. When it comes to the matters of the intangible; blanket statements eg.singaporeans are fat, lazy doesn’t apply as it boils down to individuality.

To answer ur ques..imho,
1. Statuo quo of the person (being a female or Male) and what they are looking for; just after a horrible break up or business traveller/backpacker or in the mood for sexual adventures or they are just looking for sugar daddies..it boils down to their status quo
2. Materials and looks to a certain degree helps a little but it’s easily written off if he has impeccable personality (but it boils down to no 1; if someone is looking for a daddy or to be pampered by then it’s tough to get free sex from them).
3. I think humans are dynamic creatures and in constant evolution..being in the right place and time plays an important role as well.

This is my confession,
I enjoy transient non-committal companionship
With mind blowing fuck as pre-requisite
And token of appreciation as the physical validation to my alter ego.

I’m pretty liberal when it comes to the carnal needs (being abroad for half a decade of my adolescence). When it comes to the carnal needs, it’s never about the checklist of whether he has a Richard Mille watch or takes me to expensive venues; it has always been the vibe and my mental/emotional statuo quo at that point of time. (The irony is I’ve got a soft spot for roadside baskers; hence, not all singaporeans are $$ driven).

Hope the above will be some sort of a tangent or help to you.

All the best! ����

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Unfortunately, when you offer your body in a service oriented transaction to acquire monetary gains, it deviates you from normality. You may retain the dignity of what makes you human as an unalienable right. But you lose that sense of normality from the perspective of a sex laced relationship.

So assuming you are a FL/escort, should the person you are shagging who also just helped you out in a race attack at the expense of his safety pay for this 'service' at the end of it?

'Wait is this a service? Am I hiring a FL right now or are we doing it because it is a natural progression of our feelings?' You might have your own definition but the moment the guy knows what you do, it confuses the hell out of him pushing him into the boundaries of abnormalities.

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A good friend of mine once said, if you like something enough, don't turn it into a job.

I had my shares of hookups before and yes, the moment the ambiguity kicks in, the woman usually is on the losing end as the guy would hold back. Non-committal intimicacy is already complicated as it is, even without the extra baggage.

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Moi not caucasian but live in Europe. All needed is just go dating apps and just swipe everyday. Sure got a few drop into your lap. Then just date. May not score on 1st date but you can already feel the vibes if it will lead to sex

Already pump more ladies in Europe in my few years there than in Singapore. Angmo ladies more chio, busty and easy going. Also in Europe more choices...got angmo, Latinas, Arabic, Asian etc

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I guess there are no scammers in dating apps because the Tiongs cannot communicate with Angmohs LD

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None of the above.

This is the secret:



Cheers!

Bro WB

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Good evening,

I like to share insights on what is very attractive to women from Mr. Mike Haines.

"Women are attracted to you because you have a stronger frame than they do."

"Women would rather fuck an ugly guy with a strong frame than a handsome guy with a weak one."

"A girl can ONLY get horny for you if you have a stronger frame than her."

“Be a man. Act like you have answers.” (Bill Burr)

Any comments?

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Sorry to burst your balloon.

Bill Burr is probably a simp.

Take a look at his wife. If you check out various pics, he is likely clinging on to Nia as if she is the best he can have. Loser by your definition.
https://news.amomama.com/208224-nia-...cy-bill-b.html

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Bro, tks for your post.

Don't forget that "one man's meat is another's man poison."

Yes, Bill Burr is a big loser by my definition. But it doesn't invalidate everything he has said.

Because knowing, doing, and being are completely different.

Have you seen Arnold Schwarzenegger's maid mistress with whom he had a love child?



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mildred...reaks-silence/

Poor Arnold. He had to share his mistress's pussy w/ other men. She wasn't even sure if her son was Arnold's. I feel very sorry for him.

How about the new sexual partner of the world's richest man Jeff Bezos? She is a 51yo woman w/ three children (not his)!! She is older than TY's mother by more than 5 years! And I'm much older than Jeff.

Google Mark Zuckerberg's 36 yo wife.

Yeah, their women are old aunties to me. IMHO, they are all losers when it comes to women.

BTW, many very smart, successful, and powerful men are completely clueless about women.:D:p

Isn't life beautiful?

Cheers!

Bro WB

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I just replied to a bro on my thread.

Bro, tks for your question.

"FRAME" is the frame of mind or state of mind or mindset, and in the context of attracting women, refers to a man's emotional strength, self-mastery, and other masculine character traits including courage, dominance, confidence, non-neediness, ambition, trustworthiness, reliability, intelligence, specialized knowledge/skills, compassion, n kindness, etc.

I forgot a MAN's value to society and that he is God's gift to all beautiful women in the world. If all of the above is truly your frame of mind at the subconscious level, you will have no competition in getting all the most attractive girls of your type.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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I just posted in my thread.

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Good morning,

IMHO, extremely few attractive and cute SYTs of my type from PRC will be coming to Singapore after the pandemic. Actually, there has been a dearth of these highly desirable girls since 2016.

Sadly, we will be getting only plastic women/aunties and very old aunties.

Unless the very attractive young woman knows you very well and wants to be your long-term sexual partner, she won't come here. If you do happen to see one, you can be certain that she is the GF, lao po or mistress of another man here.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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This was just posted on my thread.

Good afternoon,

I received the following from Mike Haines several days ago. He is a red pill man and I don't always agree with his frames, methods, and actions, but this narrative is interesting and it illustrates some of his masculine character traits.

It also caught my attention because he approached an 18 yo girl n he used terms such as unconscious incompetence and unconscious competence, which I have alluded to a few times in this thread. Mike is 30 and he thinks he is old for an 18 yo SYT? Wait till he is an ah pek and then it would be a true litmus test of his masculine strength and emotional mastery.

I have done minimal editing to make it more readable.

Warbird,

Last Saturday afternoon I was sitting around at home bored.

Nightclubs still aren’t in Dublin yet, and I’ve quit online dating, so I have very little to do.

So I went out.

Not to get girls.

(Which I’m trying to avoid right now, for the purposes of spiritual growth.)

But simply to have an adventure.

So anyway, I had a couple of drinks and walked into the city.

There was a massive “bloc party” type thing going on.

Lots of hot chicks around…

I’m walking through the street and I see a rapturously beautiful girl leaning against the wall talking on her phone.

She’s young, small, blonde, with long tanned legs, wearing Air Force 1s and a short so skirt it barely covers her panties.

I walked past her.

A few yards away, I turned back to look at her. She looks at me and then looks away.

Fuck.

OK… ok… fine.

I walk back there, slowly, not looking at her.

Then when I’m a few feet away from her I hold out my hand.

She looks at me but she’s still on the phone.

“Hi, I’m Michael.”

“Hi…”

She puts the phone away immediately.

We get to talking and I sit down beside her.

Turns out she’s 18.

I tell her I’m 30, but she doesn’t seem to mind.

I start teasing her.

She says something (I can’t remember what), and I use it as an excuse to do a take-away.

I make a “weirded out” face and get up as if to leave. “Well, anyway, I gotta go…”

“Shut up!!” she smacks me, grinning.

I’m standing in front of her now.

I get her to stand up and hug me as if I’m about to leave.

We hug… I look into her eyes…

Pupils are massive, big goofy grin = green light.

I kiss her and she kisses me back hungrily.

Her lips are warm and sweet.

I explore her body with my hands.

Her ass is perfect.

So tight and round and perky.

We go off together and get lost in the night…

Not bad for the first cold approach in weeks.

It used to be that I would need a massive state of “momentum” to approach a girl this hot.

And even if I could approach without momentum, I wouldn’t be able to escalate.

But this was SMOOTH.

No momentum is needed.

No buildup.

No fake confidence.

Hadn’t cold approached a girl in maybe 6 weeks.

Hadn’t even spoken to another human being in 7 days.

Walk outside…

See a 9/10…

Approach…

Chat…

Kiss within 3 minutes…

Pull.

SMOOTH.

Effortless.

Natural.

Not trying to do anything.

No desire for any particular outcome.

Happy if she wants to talk to me.

Happy if she does not.

This is the kind of thing you can expect when you get good at this.

It goes from:

Unconscious incompetence

to

Conscious incompetence

to

Conscious competence

and finally to…

Unconscious competence.

That’s the sweet spot.

And that’s the end result of learning this or any other skill.

It becomes programmed into your muscle memory and reflexes so that you can do it without even thinking about it…

And without strenuous effort…

Without fear…

Without lust of result.

Talking to girls may be hard when you're starting out.

It might seem like you're fighting an uphill struggle to remember to do 13 different things, and it's just too complex.

But like anything else, it becomes more and more effortless over time.

Everything is hard before it's easy.

Yup, he was smooth and he didn't give two hoots about the outcome.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Good evening,

When you see a beautiful girl of your type and you think you're not good enough for her, for whatever reason or reasons, you're right. You have a weak frame n you won't get her. Just give up. Even if you're a young, intelligent, and good-looking billionaire with the body of an Adonis. You will fail to capture her heart. In fact, she will find you repulsive. You may buy her body if she is a gold digger.

If you don't think you're the prize to your dream girl, she can sense it 10 meters away. Everything you do or say will be wrong, very wrong.

Here is a recent email from Marni.

Stop Saying These 4 Words

I’m going to share a mistake with you hear that A LOT of guys make when approaching women.

In fact, it just happened to me the other day while I was out with a friend.

As you probably know, I’m more than happy for guys to come over and approach me (since this is what I preach)... AND even with my mask on... I'm a social person, so I crave interaction even if it's from a distance....

But when they commit this mistake, it makes me cringe.

And the mistake I’m talking about is telling us right away that we should ignore you.

This is exactly what that guy communicated with the first 4 words he said to me:

“Sorry to bother you.”

In his mind, he was probably being polite.

But it comes across as, ‘Let me apologize in advance for wasting your time and annoying you.’

It’s the exact opposite of what confidence is…

And it’s why we immediately get turned off when a man approaches us in this manner.

Think about it… he’s literally saying that he’s about to bother me. Why would I want to keep talking with him after that?!

I'm going to be so un-P.C. here but this is the kind of weak frame a beggar would have.

Except instead of begging for spare change, this guy was begging for my attention. And begging is the keyword here because if he felt like he DESERVED my attention, he wouldn’t feel the need to apologize for bothering me.

This is something a lot of guys overlook...

And in all the years I’ve been coaching men, I’ve noticed it a ton. They’ll be so focused on what they’re going to say AFTER they get her attention, that they completely neglect what they’re actually saying to GET her attention.

It might not always be “sorry to bother you” in those exact words. But the sentiment is usually the same. Some other examples are:

“You’ve probably got a boyfriend, but…”

“Do you mind if I talk to you for a second?”

“I hope I’m not disturbing you”

Basically, anything that communicates you feel like you’re beneath her… or that her time is more valuable than yours.

That doesn’t mean you need to be rude when you approach her. You can still politely get her attention without it seeming like you’re groveling.

For example, a simple “excuse me” to get her attention is a million times better than, “sorry to bother you.”

If she’s in the middle of something or seems busy, you can also acknowledge that in a confident and socially intelligent way, rather than an apologetic way.

The guy who approached us the other day could have said something like, “Excuse me, I can see that you’re enjoying your lunch, however I had to say…” and then go ahead with the reason he was approaching us.

It’s not so much that those first few words are going to create strong attraction (although they can when you have your tonality and body language on point)...

It’s more that you’re AVOIDING saying something that’s going to trigger landmines that blow up your chances before you’ve even begun.

So that’s something for you to think about from now on…

How exactly are you getting a woman’s attention when you approach her… and what is it unconsciously communicating about you?

Because if this is something you’re guilty of, just changing this one tiny thing can make a HUGE difference in how women respond to you.

However, this is only one of the mistakes that guys make when approaching women.

Mistakes that practically kill your chances with her right from the get go. And most guys are completely unaware they’re even making these mistakes, which means they never correct them and start seeing the success they deserve.




My analysis: A man is a loser NOT because he uses these four words or any other words. The root cause of his problems is his weak frames and the fact that he believes the very beautiful girl is the PRIZE.

Until he can successfully reprogram his subconscious mind, and make his frames very strong, reading any ebooks or watching any videos will do little to improve his chances with a very beautiful dream girl.

Don't waste your money. Your improvement must come within you.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Sis you are in a guy's shoes you will feel the pain of trying to balance passive assertive and aggressive when meeting an attractive lady. Its super not easy its like you are drunk but trying to keep awake.

The confidence does not come just by reading the advice here. The confidence needs acknowledgement from ladies giving the guy chances.

You try be a guy,you will cry cos you cant get any girls you like into bed while your sperm is shouting to be let out your skin craving some touch, you a guy craving at least some attention from a lady which the ladies are getting a lot of, sex as and when they like, hug.

Imagine you lost in wilderness,you are very hungry like we guys fxxking need sex now you see two person got food in their hand you need the food but you very unsure if the people will give you or not and how everything will turn out. In your mind you dont know if they will be nasty to you or what you can bring to the table for them to give you food. You tried approach them but they dont like your neediness for food but you are hungry how do you pretend you not needy right. Only when you are full then you can appear not needy. You should not ask for permission to eat their food. This is roughly the idea of how guys deal with our sex needs in modern singapore and we are always not given food and forever hungry but we are expected by girls to not appear needy.

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After dating girls of different nationalities, Korean, Malaysian and HK to name a few, i can safely say Sg girls are not on top of my list due to their materialistic wants over emotions/ feelings/ love.

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Diesnt apply to all sg girls.

Prc girls working in singapore corporate also materialistic. They have their clique of prc groups whereby there are prc study very hard last time now high flyer in sg working as real estate agent, in high office position etc so these more normal office prc girls will feel the need to catch up to their prc peers if not lose face. When they look for partner also look for someone earn not bad, of course if she likes you enough then earning Doesnt really matter if you look like those hong kong male star xie ting feng etc. You no money but she can flaunt your looks.

So these prc and sg girls is all about flaunting because of their peer pressure for face and keep up with their clique.