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Old 05-11-2019, 05:26 AM
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I Opened Pandora's Box

I searched for and found Pandora’s Box. I went and opened up Pandora’s Box. I found more than what I was looking for. I found a passionate relationship, with deep physical connection and beautiful new experiences not only in the pleasures of the flesh but I also found a deep connection with her. She let me experience and showed me things that only exists in my wildest imaginations, or even beyond my imagination. This was the Holy Grail that some men spent a lifetime searching for and still not able to find. I fell for my Goddess. I fell deep and fast. I wanted more than the friendship that she was already offering me, and from her own perspective, which was more than what she was willing to offer her other clients. I wanted more than the special friendship that she was willing to offer. I wanted her, all to myself, forever. I took her for granted, imposed my own fantasy of a relationship, and broke our fragile connection. My Goddess has abandoned me because I wanted more than she could give me without losing herself.
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Old 05-11-2019, 10:20 AM
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Re: I Opened Pandora's Box

Hyperbole. Juiced-up much ado over nothing. Ain't Pandora's box. Ain't holy grail. It's just a failed relationship. What more a commercial one. Get a life dude.
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Old 06-11-2019, 02:20 PM
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Re: I Opened Pandora's Box

Actually what happen? Do you mind sharing?
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Old 07-11-2019, 06:08 AM
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Re: I Opened Pandora's Box

Bro

I just throw my pandora

Believe me like many bro here

It is not worth it to date working girl

Their heart is for money

It is hard pill to swallow for you. But imagine easier for her to replace you than you replace her.

Sorry, it hard to understand when you are so in "LOVE"

Best way is to experience yourself

A lot of advice from other in this section

Read it and try clear your mind
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Old 07-11-2019, 09:48 AM
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Re: I Opened Pandora's Box

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Actually what happen? Do you mind sharing?
I hired a high class FL, paid her for first overnight but second day she gave it to me for free and we exchanged info. Then I came back to US and we kept talking via apps, she never expected me to come.back so soon and through the conversations I found out a lot about her life and slowly fell for her, partially pitying her. I managed to come back for a visit within 2 months, so we planned a 2 day rendezvous and was very happy. I still paid her (Before I paid her I told her that this is not payment for her services. I said to her that this is payment for her time away from her family and that she can choose to not have sex with me...and she replied..."What if I want it"). She let me do it raw this time because she said she treated me more than a client. The sex was out of this world (full of passion and without any inhibitions) and her beauty and gfe throughout our interactions are also out of this world. It really felt like we were a couple that are in love the few full days we spent together. She was a real stunner too (beautiful demure face, tall and nice curves). When we were outside, men would look at her with lust in their eyes, women would look at her simmering with jealousy and even little girls would look at her, with admiring eyes.

Then I left for work for 2 weeks and came back for another two day rendezvous with her. This time I wanted to try to convince her. I was so in love so I tried to impose my version and my own expectation of our relationship on her and tried to convince her that our relationship cannot progress when it is money-based. I wanted to have a serious relationship that I hoped would blossom into a true relationship. In the end I ended up not paying (due to some bad timing unintentionally) and she also ended our relationship (saying that we are thinking differently about this) even though I apologized and offered to pay her. So now I owe her thousands of dollars but she did not even want to give me bank info as I am back in US already. That's the short version of it.

I think she felt something for me, but not deep enough but also wanted to be the one making the calls on defining the relationship, which I think would eventually become a FWB kind of relationship. She's proud though, would never ask for the money owed to her, would not even give me a chance to send her the payment.

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Re: I Opened Pandora's Box

Dear TS,

Sounds like a fair deal to me if u dun pay her...just as long as u dun have sex with her n treat her like a sex object. True love dun need to pay or just have sex.

Can you do it as well? U bonked her n then dun pay her cux u dun wanna treat her like a whore...and she still let u do raw. Imagine how the girl feels...
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Re: I Opened Pandora's Box

Frankly reading what u wrote here...i cannot help but wonder if u r a dumb nut or someone with extreme low intellect. Especially the part on " This was the Holy Grail that some men spent a lifetime searching for and still not able to find ".

The only thing u highlight on this girl was great sex, sex and more sex..pretty much nothing else.

When someone refer a lady as a holy grail, i would assume that u meant someone who is well educated, hold a good conversation, able to carry themselves well, possessing good character values and with high intellect.

Not someone that sells their body....no wonder my friends alway say "Stupidity has no CURE."
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Re: I Opened Pandora's Box

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Frankly reading what u wrote here...i cannot help but wonder if u r a dumb nut or someone with extreme low intellect. Especially the part on " This was the Holy Grail that some men spent a lifetime searching for and still not able to find ".

The only thing u highlight on this girl was great sex, sex and more sex..pretty much nothing else.

When someone refer a lady as a holy grail, i would assume that u meant someone who is well educated, hold a good conversation, able to carry themselves well, possessing good character values and with high intellect.

Not someone that sells their body....no wonder my friends alway say "Stupidity has no CURE."
haha I am not going to write too much about her here for her privacy, you can draw your own conclusion about me. I captured our entire 3 month episode in a 30 page document with as much detail as I could remember.
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Old 07-11-2019, 03:44 PM
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I hired a high class FL, paid her for first overnight but second day she gave it to me for free and we exchanged info. Then I came back to US and we kept talking via apps, she never expected me to come.back so soon and through the conversations I found out a lot about her life and slowly fell for her, partially pitying her. I managed to come back for a visit within 2 months, so we planned a 2 day rendezvous and was very happy. I still paid her (Before I paid her I told her that this is not payment for her services. I said to her that this is payment for her time away from her family and that she can choose to not have sex with me...and she replied..."What if I want it"). She let me do it raw this time because she said she treated me more than a client. The sex was out of this world (full of passion and without any inhibitions) and her beauty and gfe throughout our interactions are also out of this world. It really felt like we were a couple that are in love the few full days we spent together. She was a real stunner too (beautiful demure face, tall and nice curves). When we were outside, men would look at her with lust in their eyes, women would look at her simmering with jealousy and even little girls would look at her, with admiring eyes.

Then I left for work for 2 weeks and came back for another two day rendezvous with her. This time I wanted to try to convince her. I was so in love so I tried to impose my version and my own expectation of our relationship on her and tried to convince her that our relationship cannot progress when it is money-based. I wanted to have a serious relationship that I hoped would blossom into a true relationship. In the end I ended up not paying (due to some bad timing unintentionally) and she also ended our relationship (saying that we are thinking differently about this) even though I apologized and offered to pay her. So now I owe her thousands of dollars but she did not even want to give me bank info as I am back in US already. That's the short version of it.

I think she felt something for me, but not deep enough but also wanted to be the one making the calls on defining the relationship, which I think would eventually become a FWB kind of relationship. She's proud though, would never ask for the money owed to her, would not even give me a chance to send her the payment.
You said she ended the relationship due to her different thinking.
What's the difference in thinking between her and yours?
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Re: I Opened Pandora's Box

Bro

I am in the same boat like you before...

Just remember

you can take the girl out of the bar (or night scene) (if you have money ... offcourse)
but you can not take the bar out of the girl

Many bros advise here a lot

Please keep reading other comment in this section

I know is hard bro, but remember they are PROstitute (PROfessional)

For them as long as they can milk someone, they will do that

Is a life lesson. I knew talk is cheap but you will understand it someday

keep your head high. At least you have dignity and good intention
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Re: I Opened Pandora's Box

Maybe she is thinking of @TS will give here a passport to the land he is in now. Since @TS cannot achieve it, then what’s the point of giving raw and gfe to @TS. Must well go find another fish.

They are in this trade for so long therefore they can control their emotion and lust. When it’s time to walk away just go kind of mentality.
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Maybe she is thinking of @TS will give here a passport to the land he is in now. Since @TS cannot achieve it, then what’s the point of giving raw and gfe to @TS. Must well go find another fish.

They are in this trade for so long therefore they can control their emotion and lust. When it’s time to walk away just go kind of mentality.
No that is not it. I have made it clear that I am willing to go all the way, including hinting of marriage and bringing her to the US. She kind of skirted the subject, making light jokes out of it. She did say in one of her final communications to me that she is not ready for any kind of serious relationship.

I agree with your second comment about FLs being able to walk away easily. For them they do not attach sex to love/emotions, so it is easy. For us who have not been chionging for a long time, it's harder (heck, even veteran chiongsters get KC before). For me, I do believe that FLs are humans too, but their emotions and feelings are buried and locked deep inside to protect themselves from being hurt, otherwise they will feel attached to every single one of their clients and that is not a sustainable thing for them. I thought I was able to unlock hers, but I was wrong.

In any case, thank you for all of your concerns and encouragement. It was Heaven while it lasted, now I'm just feeling the withdrawal symptoms and cannot kick the bad feeling that I owe her a few thousand USD...and this is a knot that I'm not able to untie. If all she had wanted was money, she would have given me the bank info to send her what I owe. Was she feeling guilty that I was being too nice to her? Was there something more? I guess I'll never know...
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Re: I Opened Pandora's Box



this is what we thought right....lol

But it's true actually man more hard broken than women
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this is what we thought right....lol

But it's true actually man more hard broken than women
Nah, Tong Hua is about losing somebody to terminal illness. Our relationship is more complicated but can be summarized by 3 songs.

Beginning:
Lyin' Eyes by Eagles



(the part - "City girl, seems to find out early, how to open doors with just a smile"....that is totally her, any man, would melt if she gives him a smile. This is how I got KC'ed first)


Middle:
Sometimes When We Touch by Dan Hill



this song kind of describes us very accurately. As I got to know more about her by chatting in those two months, our conversations are pretty open and relaxed, I fell for her. We met up again after that. "You asked me if I love you, and I choked on my reply. I'd rather hurt you honestly, than mislead you with a lie. And who am I to judge you, on what you say or do. I'm only just beginning, to see the real you...and sometimes when we touch, the honesty's too much and I have to close my eyes and hide. I want to hold you till I die, till we both break down and cry, I wanna hold you, till the fear in me, subsides...". More like looking at this from her perspective, because she does not love me and she did not want to lie about it. We were physically very close, as close as can be when I opened my feelings for her. She acknowledges that I treat her very well and very kind to her but I believe she was scared that she might get too close to opening up herself to the possibility of a serious relationship).

Ending:
Tell Me on a Sunday by Marti Webb


(she broke up with me on a Monday Singapore time, sending me the message via an app. It was technically Sunday in the US, as I on a flight back to the US). Somehow this song got stuck in my head after reading her message. Not my choice to see receive the message at an airport...instead of park with forests, zoo with chimpanzees, or a circus with flying trapeze...but at least it was not slamming of door, or calling me at 3am to break up LOL.
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TS - I am not sure if there was even a r/s to start with to be very frank. It seems to be a one way infatuation on your end towards her. There is perfectly normal as you have indicated that she is a high-class escort and probably is a ravishing beauty.

Our small head dictates over the big one and we think we have a chance at a actual relationship with them. The reality is that women of such attractiveness is wayyyyy out of the league of the average joe here. They shower attention on us due to the almighty dollar and not because we are Andy Laus. You seem to be of a higher calibre being based in the US and all (are you local SG?) but she meets many successful and rich man in her line of work. We make the mistake that they are unhappy in their job and try to be a white knight to save them from their fate of a WL. As a high class escort - they are raking in the $$$. They do not need someone to save them, that's the reality. A relationship that starts on the basis of $$$ is on rocky foundation - success stories are few and far between. Consider it a lesson learnt and a few thousand USD saved. You had your fun
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