Is raw the norm now with Vietbu?

[Avenuefighters]

I will not share as I do not encourage raw. It is too risky.

[ToTo1985]

yea, if compare with others, they are more willing to raw
regulars with some PRCs and they die die cannot accept raw
with this viet ml, make her wet and can raw liao

[ilovepantyhose]

Originally Posted by Suanced

Her mouth very big like Zoe?

Originally Posted by vespa200x

Yup mouth big. Can easily take it deep

does she also swallow like zoe?

[vespa200x]

Originally Posted by ilovepantyhose

does she also swallow like zoe?

I don’t know about Zoe. But yup !

[popololo]

raw is war, better stay safe guys!

[schick]

When I was in Hanoi, had an incall. 22yo girl, at least according to her ID. For slightly a bit more than a FJ here in SG can play whole night. Started from 8pm to next day 8am. Unlimited some more.

Anyway I prepared condoms already but was in one of my pants pocket underneath pile of clothes so was searching for it. She was a bit impatient already and kept telling me no need condom, just don't shoot inside.

I joke with her poke inside already where got think about pull out and shoot one, sure shoot everything in. And she actually say ok and open her legs liao.

But I heck and found the condom. Tbh I was really tempted to just raw. Her gfe really gao gao.

[fwchong]

you gave the wrong impression to them and treated them like GF. They gave you raw to win you over. Many older man or uncles would do it raw after a few time with the same girl. Uncle got money power and buy them gifts and treat them well. So, they recipociate back.

try with another viet girl and dont treat her like what you do to others who gave your RAW and see if get back the same reaction.

Originally Posted by HornyMan

But raw or not, I do like Vietbu for they are more easy going, less calculative and scheming, although communication could be an issue at times. I ended up treating them extra nice (not with extra money though) which I don't often do with PRC. Small gestures like stroking their face and hair with genuine fondness, touching with feeling, light kisses before saying goodbye, buying some snacks for them etc.. Somehow with PRC, there is always this feeling there is a motive hidden behind them, and so don't feel natural when doing the above.

[HornyMan]

But these two diff Viets that I shared offering raw happened on the 1st and 2nd visit respectively, no extra money nor gifts involved leh. Standard rates with no nego some more. As I said they offered without me asking. I only gave gifts (mostly chocolates and biscuits) costing only $10-$20 to my regular, not any random ML I visit. No expensive handbags or the likes. You could say I am a cheapo.

It is my nature to treat the MLs well with nice gestures, give a kind and friendly vibe, often not involving giving extra money as I am not rich. Yes, one could say I treat them like gf (and not a whore) this way. This is to ensure the session always turn out to be an enjoyable and pleasant one for both, not as a mean to solicit raw offer. The last thing I want to do is to have sex with the ML while not feeling happy, or feeling over charged or not satisfied. Spent money already and then not happy, for what?

And I don't have the time nor money to bring the ML out for meal or to hotel to develop frenship or unlock. No companionship outside of the visit to the shop, not even having a cup of coffee outside. Never did these things nor will I do it. All the "unlocking" has to happen in that one hour with standard rates, max 3B for me, or none. Usually I am able to get the max menu in the 2nd visit or I won't go back again.

Often the gestures and vibes go a long way more than money. Trust me on this. At least that is what I experienced.

Again the same treatment I gv to PRCs, Msians and Viets; only encounter Viets offering me raw so far. And I got no balls to take up!

[xiexun]

Last year I went to Danang, hooked up with a viet KTV gal that i know in SG. we used condoms.

Went to HCM last month, massage parlours all used condom.

Anyway, I won't do if no condoms. AIDs / STD is too much a risk, no?
(of course, someone will tell me, PCC at home is the safest)

[fwchong]

Based on your id, I think you cheong very long in the industry to know that FL girls dont anyhow give raw for no reasons.

So it is likely the viet treat you like one those uncles who treat them well and always get raw.

You can change your tatics to give cold shoulder and see if they give you raw.

Originally Posted by HornyMan

But these two diff Viets that I shared offering raw happened on the 1st and 2nd visit respectively, no extra money nor gifts involved leh. Standard rates with no nego some more. As I said they offered without me asking. I only gave gifts (mostly chocolates and biscuits) costing only $10-$20 to my regular, not any random ML I visit. No expensive handbags or the likes. You could say I am a cheapo.

It is my nature to treat the MLs well with nice gestures, give a kind and friendly vibe, often not involving giving extra money as I am not rich. Yes, one could say I treat them like gf (and not a whore) this way. This is to ensure the session always turn out to be an enjoyable and pleasant one for both, not as a mean to solicit raw offer. The last thing I want to do is to have sex with the ML while not feeling happy, or feeling over charged or not satisfied. Spent money already and then not happy, for what?

And I don't have the time nor money to bring the ML out for meal or to hotel to develop frenship or unlock. No companionship outside of the visit to the shop, not even having a cup of coffee outside. Never did these things nor will I do it. All the "unlocking" has to happen in that one hour with standard rates, max 3B for me, or none. Usually I am able to get the max menu in the 2nd visit or I won't go back again.

Often the gestures and vibes go a long way more than money. Trust me on this. At least that is what I experienced.

Again the same treatment I gv to PRCs, Msians and Viets; only encounter Viets offering me raw so far. And I got no balls to take up!

[Naka_Timo]

Originally Posted by vespa200x

I don’t know about Zoe. But yup !

Originally Posted by HornyMan

But these two diff Viets that I shared offering raw happened on the 1st and 2nd visit respectively, no extra money nor gifts involved leh. Standard rates with no nego some more. As I said they offered
Again the same treatment I gv to PRCs, Msians and Viets; only encounter Viets offering me raw so far. And I got no balls to take up!

Upped +165 for both

[Ecuader]

Originally Posted by ToTo1985

yea, if compare with others, they are more willing to raw
regulars with some PRCs and they die die cannot accept raw
with this viet ml, make her wet and can raw liao

Originally Posted by vespa200x

I don’t know about Zoe. But yup !

+26 points

[Slaver29125]

Originally Posted by fwchong

...FL girls dont anyhow give raw for no reasons.

Just my sharing...

In my earlier days, I really thought that it should be common sense not to raw and like what bro fwchong mentioned, FL girls wont anyhow give raw for no reasons.

There is this Thai FL I know, she die die will not do raw because of her kid back home even though her current Jp OKT said that she will earn much more in Jp.

Then in recent years, I found out that raw can be unlocked easily with a top-up for some Thai FLs. I was in Korea recently, and +100K W can even CIP the working girls, even legit Korean FL... was damn tempting.

Now, In my earlier chionging years, had raw with a PRC that I unlocked after much effort bringing her out, with lots of pampering. Can say we unlocked each other... hahaha... Too bad she got deported, but we do keep in touch once in awhile. But ALL other PRCs, the topic of raw never arise.

Now... Viet... I visited 3 vietbu so far in the last few years, topic of raw never came up for 2 of the 3. The last one stunned me with the offer of raw with CIP on my first visit, without any additional effort... maybe I look like her ex? heh.

So, I dont think is raw is the norm with vietbu, but I feel the bar maybe lower in unlocking raw with them.

[HornyMan]

Originally Posted by Slaver29125

Now... Viet... I visited 3 vietbu so far in the last few years, topic of raw never came up for 2 of the 3. The last one stunned me with the offer of raw with CIP on my first visit, without any additional effort... maybe I look like her ex? heh.

So, I dont think is raw is the norm with vietbu, but I feel the bar maybe lower in unlocking raw with them.

Exactly! The bar is much lower for Viet is my suspicion, especially nowadays.

My two cases happened in just the past one month. After my regular returned home, I visited three new MLs, one PRC (shared in my other thread) and two Viets. So it is 2 out of 2 in just one month.

I have one more Viet SYT in my waiting list also looks damned chio from her pic, I will check her out when I have the time. If it is 3 out of 3, I will conclude it is the norm now!

P/S: From these two encounters, I think I know how to test water by now, without having to ask..

[HornyMan]

Originally Posted by keltoh12

Just take reference to BT Merah famous raw shop . It’s outright declaration . Will share more on what happened to me recently later

Yes, that joint is famous for that although may not be by every ML there , it is no secrete as some bro had posted FRs..but with top up.

But my two encounters were not at this joint. It is the usual SPAs where such offer is least expected.

Looking forward to more of your sharing.