Batam Info / Interest / Help Thread

[cleyeo]

Originally Posted by fde83

With the right people (not money) now also can apply for ktp, indo pp included om.

I think it is difficult now, my Indo friend told me they are now using E-KTP. Not sure what it means LOL

[kukumalu52]

Total newbie with very little experience here. Spent hours reading this thread and decided to come to batam solo to look see.

Getting cold feet, though, as it's a foreign place and I don't speak the language. Have read thru all of the beginner guides, but still a bit scared to venture out and explore

Any tips on how to 'motivate' myself and get over my cold feet?

[fde83]

Originally Posted by cleyeo

I think it is difficult now, my Indo friend told me they are now using E-KTP. Not sure what it means LOL

Can bro no issue. My friend got it 2 months ago. Now renting a bungalow, with 3 rooms plus 2 toilets, huge garden too. Monthly rentel 2.5 mil. All in. Told me his fortunate to know me. I just laugh. Lol

[nitecrawllerr]

Originally Posted by fde83

Can bro no issue. My friend got it 2 months ago. Now renting a bungalow, with 3 rooms plus 2 toilets, huge garden too. Monthly rentel 2.5 mil. All in. Told me his fortunate to know me. I just laugh. Lol

Cash/ money is King!

[cleyeo]

Originally Posted by fde83

Can bro no issue. My friend got it 2 months ago. Now renting a bungalow, with 3 rooms plus 2 toilets, huge garden too. Monthly rentel 2.5 mil. All in. Told me his fortunate to know me. I just laugh. Lol

wow,,, $250 only a month !!!!!

[retirebatam]

Originally Posted by ndnd

I used to have one batam KTP. Those provinsi type which valid for 5 years. The old KTP. Just 300k that time.

Understand that in indonesia, the law requires every foreign resident to possess identity documents issued by the Civil Registry.

However, many foreigners are not aware of this and may face penalties for non-compliance..

There are two types of Identity cards for foreigners staying in Indonesia or Batam namely the SKTT and KTP-OA

SKTT (Surat Keterangan Tempat Tinggal) is an identity card that is issued to foreigners who hold a KITAS - Kartu Izin Tinggal Terbatas (Temporary Residency Permit)

KTP-OA (Kartu Tanda Penduduk - Orang Asing) is an identity card that is issued to foreigner who hold a KITAP - Kartu Izin Tinggal Tetap (Permanent Residency Permit)  

The ID cards (SKTT and KTP-OA) will have the same validity period as the KITAS and KITAP respectively that the applicant is holding.

After the foreigner hold the KITAS for 5 consecutive years, he/she will be given the KITAP. After some period of time, the KITAP holders will then be eligible to apply to become an Indonesian Citizen.

The difference between the 3 types of identity cards is the colour:

SKTT for foreigner - Green

KTP-OA for foreigner -Pink

KTP for indonesian - Blue

Bro ndnd, I guess the ID card you have is batam SKTT (Temporary Residency Permit) for KITAS holder since you did not apply for any long term stay in indonesia.

Therefore foreigner can stay long term in batam in 3 legal ways:

1)Apply for KITAS (Temporary Residency Permit) - identity card SKTT

2)Apply for KITAP (Permanent Residency Permit) - identity card KTP-OA

3)U-turn method. Enter Batam given one month stay, before expiry go back Spore or JB and then return back to Batam again, and the cycle goes on..

[retirebatam]

Originally Posted by ndnd

I used it as a discount card as i used to travel JKT and Jawa area. Many hotels charge lower rate if using an Indo KTP to check in.

Pintar banget..bisa hemat banyak duit untuk jangka panjang

Smart move to save lots of money in the long run ...

[retirebatam]

Originally Posted by ndnd

No, i didnt apply for any long term stay in indonesia.
Just make an U turn will do.
Go back SG once awhile for KTV session or go malaysia for holiday.

Oic… That means when you enter batam, you will be given one month stay and before the one month stay expiry, you will take ferry from batam centre back to either singapore or JB stulang laut / pasir gudang ferry terminal before u-turn back to batam again ya ?

Understand that all ASEAN nations do not need to apply visa for traveling within ASEAN countries for unlimited number of times and each time will be given 2 weeks or 1 month depends on the mode of transport like by land, by sea or by air.

ASEAN nation include spore, msia, indon, cambodia, myanmar, thailand, philippine, Laos, vietnam and brunei

[retirebatam]

Originally Posted by ndnd

I doubt anyone will renounce SG citizenship for Indonesia citizenship.

I have some Malaysian friends who are unwilling to take up spore citizenship although they were invited to apply because they have properties and plantation lands in Malaysia which they cannot afford to lose.

Same applies to giving up singapore citizenship. Some Singaporeans may still want to keep their HDB flat in order to rent out to earn some passive income.

Some may still want to come back to spore just in case Plan A failed and may need to come back to cari makan again.

Back to your questions, you’re rite, majority will not renounce SG citizenship except three groups of people:

1) Those people who have lots of CPF money in their CPF accounts and decided to withdraw all the CPF money out at one go to retire in a lower cost of living country.

2) Decided to leave spore for good means no intention to come back spore anymore.

3) Those people who has no relatives or family members in singapore but has established a family in Batam...(accidentally bought the cow)

[retirebatam]

Originally Posted by ndnd

Landed house pay to PLN. Base on PLN rate.

Apartment pay to property management. Base on the property's rate. Thats the different.

Since PLN is a govt-owned company and generates the majority of the country's electrical power, because of economic of scale, the electricity bill to the landed house owner will be cheap and affordable.

On the other hand, condo/apartment management buy electricity from PLN and charge higher electricity bill to individual apartment resident since the management need to handle the power distribution and to install individual electrical meter at the electrical riser for the apartments.

Whereas in Malaysia, regardless of whether it is for high rise apartment or landed house or commercial properties, the payment of electrical bill is to the same malaysia electricity company TNB (Tenaga National Berhad). However, commercial property electricity bill is more costly than residential electricity bill.

[retirebatam]

Originally Posted by ndnd

@ NONO, solar system for landed house is ok. For apartment, i doubt the management will approve even you own the unit. Better double check before purchase.

The land in the landed house belong to the individual owner, therefore he/she can install solar panel in his garden or on the roof of his house.

On the other hand, condo / apartment is considered as strata unit therefore any area outside the apartment unit is considered as a common area which is under the management.
Example: rooftop, corridors, staircases, lobbies, etc

Unless the management allowed the residents to use the outdoor space for placing solar panel, if not by placing solar panel inside the apartment no point because cannot receive enough sunlight and solar energy.

Condo/Apartment management are more concern with the uniformity and consistency on the outlook of the building.

Therefore any proposal by resident to install anything at the balcony (example:awning/solar panel,etc) or at other prominent common area is subjected to the management review and approval. But then again, with money, nothing is impossible

[retirebatam]

Originally Posted by cleyeo

I think it is difficult now, my Indo friend told me they are now using E-KTP. Not sure what it means LOL

Previously long time ago, the KTP for indonesian is only valid for 5 years.

But during year 2011 onwards, indonesian were issued e-KTP which is valid for a lifetime and this KTP electronik contains an embedded microchip.

However, for non-Indonesian citizens, the KTP card's expiry date is the same as that of their residency permit.

Which means that expiry date of identity card (SKTT) will follow (KITAS) whereas identity card (KTP-OA) will follow (KITAP)

[DDAMn]

On the other hand, condo/apartment management buy electricity from PLN and charge higher electricity bill to individual apartment resident since the management need to handle the power distribution and to install individual electrical meter at the electrical riser for the apartments.

Whereas in Malaysia, regardless of whether it is for high rise apartment or landed house or commercial properties, the payment of electrical bill is to the same malaysia electricity company TNB (Tenaga National Berhad). However, commercial property electricity bill is more costly than residential electricity bill.[/QUOTe

Thanks for bringing this up bro now i know why my electricity bill is higher than my friends...knn cibai my condo is listed as service apartment that why...haiya....

[HeatguyAlvin]

Originally Posted by ChiongBalai

Have cinema guide? Was wondering how many there are. Will be planning to stay at Radisson and want to know where the closest cinema is. TIA.

kepri mall is the closest. Radisson also have free shuttle to the newest mall in batam, Grand Batam Mall which also has a cinema.

[nitecrawllerr]

Originally Posted by retirebatam

Whereas in Malaysia, regardless of whether it is for high rise apartment or landed house or commercial properties, the payment of electrical bill is to the same malaysia electricity company TNB (Tenaga National Berhad). However, commercial property electricity bill is more costly than residential electricity bill.

My stay in JB most of the time are weekends. So usage of electricity low. So if below m$20 mthly usage, my bill is waive..free.