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Old 09-07-2017, 04:21 PM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

Great thread bro WB .... please continue sharing
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Old 10-07-2017, 10:11 AM
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3 Things That Make Women Chase You



1. Disagree with Women: M

2. Flirting with other women:

3. Get Sexual Early On: Most men assume that they will make a woman feel uncomfortable by getting sexual early on.

You cannot be more wrong than this.

Most women have multiple guy friends in their life. When they go out with you they are hoping for something romantic to develop.

Let them know your intentions by touching, holding their hands, playing with their hair and establishing a sexual dialogue.

This will turn most women on and they will start to see you as a possible sexual partner opposed to another guy friend.

Women are emotional creatures. They respond to emotions not logic. There is a certain conversation pattern and interaction style that appeals to women on the emotional level.

When you inject these attraction generating patterns into your interaction with women the result is MASSIVE UNCONTROLLABLE ATTRACTION in women for you............................................... .....................................


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Bro warbird

After reading your post above, I started to understand what I had done wrong in the past. I was terribly wrong in my technique and execution.

I love the 3 points above "3 Things That Make Women Chase You".

I was thinking been nice man will hardly get you any girl. I really enjoyed point 3 above "Get Sexual Early On".

Will need to practised all these points and will report back.

Hope you have a great week ahead.
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Old 10-07-2017, 10:33 AM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

Amazing thread by bro WB, with in-depth discussions.
Have a great day.
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Old 10-07-2017, 02:52 PM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

Excellent thread by bro WB, support here.
Have a great week ahead.
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Old 10-07-2017, 02:55 PM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

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Bro, reading your thread makes my day. Just picked up new term here "Sextifaction Quotient".
I never believe there is a perfect girl or prettiest girl. One man meant another mans poison.
When I found a girl who I am fond and she love me then to me she is MY perfect girl. Don't bother what others say because so long I am happy to do what I like and SQ is high.
Please continue to share more with us.
Have a good day.
Bro,
You make my day!
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Excellent thread here, thanks Bro WB.
Thank you!
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Bro WB
Thank you for your book recommendation "Buffet - The Making of an American Capitalist".
Intensity wins. The one overarching theme from this book is intensity, at least from my reading. Buffett seems to keep his eyes on the prize all of the time, even in his early childhood. The only times he seems to stumble is when he takes his eye off the ball.
Never stop learning. Along those same lines, Buffett seems to constantly be learning as well, in terms of study, street smarts, and investigation. He learns from success and from failure, and the progression of this knowledge and wisdom is apparent throughout the book. It’s pretty clear early on that he’s intelligent but not wise – only after many years of learning does he seem wise.
Don’t buy more than you need. Buffett’s frugality is well known, but what’s fascinating is how that frugality drifts over into his investing. In no aspect of his life does he spend a dime without clear purpose. He lives in what I’d call an upper middle class home because he sees no reason to live in anything else. Similarly, he passed up (over and over again, actually) seemingly good investments simply because he didn’t see the reason to make the leap. It’s pretty obvious, then, that Buffett follows his principles adamantly, especially later on in his career.
I like to comment that WB didn't teach about BY. Anyway he such a frugal person will never $pent money on girls like you do.
Please continue to share with us here.
Hope you enjoyed as much as I do.
Cheers.
Bro,
Another great investor is J Paul Getty. Read his book How to be Rich. He was the world's richest man in the 50s and 60s.
Cheers!
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Bro
Have you changed your taste since 2010? I must say what your type is good.
I started reading your thread since many bros here did the same thing. I must say early part of your thread plenty of exchanges and good ideas.
Hope to continue reading when I have more time.
Have a great week.
Bro,
No, my taste has not changed. I hv compromised on height as tall and pretty SYTs w/ the right body/limb propotions are too rare in Sg.
Cheers!
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Bro - thank you for your reply.
Hope you have an amazing day.
Tks bro.
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Great thread by Bro WB.
Have a nice day.
Cheers
Cheers!
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Bro, what a nice forum above post although was back in 6 Dec 2010.
I fully agreed with you that men should be dominant and never take no for an answer. Since you BY her she should be serving you whenever you wished.
Sometimes can be fully turned off when guy wanted but gal refused. Like the way you mentioned have to find other gal, haha.
Please continue to post more here so that I can learn.
Have a great day please.
NB - those days can up a gal for iphone4. Today iphone7 and coming up Sep new iphone.
Bro,
That was a long time ago. I kept that gal full time for two months only, then part time for the rest of 2012. She returned in early 2015 and she looked older and not worth even a ST!
Cheers!
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Bro - thank you so much for the amazing thread.
I was pleasantly surprised you taught investing and trading here too. Any recent tips on what to bu? Looks like tech stock heading for big correction.
Please do share with us more. Will read up and comment more soon.
Wish you enjoy all your BY syts.
Enjoy your great week too.
Bro,
Read The Intelligent Investor and How to be Rich 10 times. And if you hv absolute self mastery, you could become the richest man in the world.
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Bro WB
Have learned a lot from this thread.
Please share more of your experiences.
Have a nice day.
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Bro WB
Learnt a lot from your great sharing.
Have a wonderful week ahead.
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Bro WB
The above posts woke me up and now I knew in the past my method was wrong.
I will try to finish reading soon.
Hope you can contine to post more to share.
Have a great weekend.
Cheers!
Bros, thank you!
Cheers!
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Bro - another classic post above,.
Always difficult to value how much is pussy worth?  But investing is much easier to value base on price ratio benchmark.
Have a great Friday.
Bro,
I was in Batam in Nov 2011 to meet a girl who flew from Jakarta to meet me. I met her earlier at Las Vegas 5th fl in SG. She was quite young, 172, natural C and had big ass. From Dongbei. It was like yesterday.
Cheers!
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WB, This is the reality of truth. Love cannot last long. Love cannot be taken as food. All still need ca$h to pay for food, etc.

Yes, only if yiou are lying thru your own teeth.
No, a young man too young too be tied down without enjoying the world.

same answer as above.
Will continue to read and hope to achieve your level soon.
Have an amazing day.
Bro,
Tks for ur post.
Cheers!
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Very interesting thread.
Thanks bro WB.
Have a great weekend
CheerS!
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Bro all of uswill have to die one day. We can die happy or die without enjoying one day of our life.
You are doing excellent in my opinion. Today you already very successful and full of vigor in terms of your objective of tasting pussies.
Many men are very weak and meek. They give in to women and been nice. Worried that the women will ignored or dumped him.
I agreed with you that we shouldn't be afraid of rejections. Rejections are part and parcel of the game.
Just move on when we face rejections. One woman loss is another woman's gain.
Have a nice weekend.
Bro,
Now I want to die at 90, while making love to my very cute 18 yo LP haha.
Rejection? It's her big loss.
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Bro warbird
Tks for the post above. Absolutely right to say girl working in nite scene aged faster than usual. These girls usually don't have enough rests and sleep deprived syndrome.
Tks also for pointing out the book "the donkey fell in to an old empty well".
Hope to read up more of your posts in this thread.
Hope you have a good Sunday rest.
Bro,
They age faster. Working in the nite scene for 2-3 years could do a lot of harm to a SYT's looks.
Cheers!

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Support nice thread by bro WB
Have a nice Sunday bro
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Great thread bro WB .... please continue sharing
Bros,
Thanks!
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Bro warbird

After reading your post above, I started to understand what I had done wrong in the past. I was terribly wrong in my technique and execution.

I love the 3 points above "3 Things That Make Women Chase You".

I was thinking been nice man will hardly get you any girl. I really enjoyed point 3 above "Get Sexual Early On".

Will need to practised all these points and will report back.

Hope you have a great week ahead.
Bro,
Pls give us an update in a month.
Cheers!

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Amazing thread by bro WB, with in-depth discussions.
Have a great day.
To all samsters,
Have a great day!
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Old 10-07-2017, 09:30 PM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

Bro, you very pro leh. Very one comment you reply.
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Old 11-07-2017, 10:34 AM
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Bro,
They age faster. Working in the nite scene for 2-3 years could do a lot of harm to a SYT's looks.
Cheers!

Bro WB
Bro - fully agreed with you.


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Be the Man

Lack of a backbone and feeling needy and insecure are the biggest obstacles to
being a leader and attracting women through your charisma. If you want to be
the strong guy who sucks others into his vortex, observe and practice the
following guidelines.

TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. A man with charisma solves problems without placing
blame on others. As John F. Kennedy put it when discussing the immense
challenges of the presidency, “I do not shrink from this responsibility -- I welcome
it.”
Accept advice from others, but don't depend on them to make decisions. Always
be ready to take charge and make the decide what will be done.

----

PLACE A HIGH VALUE ON YOURSELF. That means you don't need other
people's approval. You're placing a low value on yourself when you:
• Brag about yourself. The only reason you'd ever brag is because you feel
insecure.
• Try to impress people. A man of high value isn't required to prove himself to
anyone.
• Feel that anyone's better than you. You never need to put a woman up on a
pedestal or feel like you have to impress your friends or followers. Remember,
no one out there is better than you! As such...
• Don't give people your attention unless they have earned it. And then
when you do give them your attention, they'll feel so much better about
it.
• Be busy enough in your life (due to your drive to succeed) that when
you give your time to others, they can be sure that they have earned it.
• Never feel as if you need to buy anyone's affections. Instead use your
charm. A well-placed sincere compliment for someone will bring you far
better results than buying them gifts or giving them fake flattery.


Cheers!

Bro WB
Bro WB

I was reading your post above and like to discuss some important points.

Many man lack of integrity and backbone. Many dun see themselves as what you had written above "Be a Real Man".

Also "PLACE A HIGH VALUE ON YOURSELF" was also very important point.

Hope you can continue to post more here. Will read up more and comment whenever I can.

Thanks and have a great day.

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Old 11-07-2017, 11:03 AM
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***The 10 Rarest Qualities Of The Extinct Man***

...See the thing is, you don't even NEED to BE these things... there
are ways to flip the "mental triggers" in her mind so that she'll
ASSUME you are these things without you ever needing to say it, or
even be it...

1. The leader (at work, socially, amongst peer group etc)
2. Popular (people want to know you and be around you)
3. Confident
4. Funny (have a good sense of humor)
5. Have social proof (be attractive to other women)
6. Be socially competent and have social intelligence
7. Strong/protective over loved ones
8. Looks/body (have good genes for her offspring)
9. Emotionally wired correctly
10. Have power (be willing to use resources to protect her)


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Bro WB

Was reading thru your past post above. The famous 80:20 rule also applies to women intrested in men. Economics only taught us 80:20 rules.

***The 10 Rarest Qualities Of The Extinct Man***....this is very simple logic and easy to understand but difficult to do.

Please post more here so that we can all benefit from your valuable lessons.

Have a great day.

Cheers!
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Old 11-07-2017, 12:35 PM
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@TS - thank you for your reply.

Support here again.
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Old 11-07-2017, 03:12 PM
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Bro, you very pro leh. Very one comment you reply.
Bro,
Tks for ur post.

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Bro - fully agreed with you.

Bro WB

I was reading your post above and like to discuss some important points.

Many man lack of integrity and backbone. Many dun see themselves as what you had written above "Be a Real Man".

Also "PLACE A HIGH VALUE ON YOURSELF" was also very important point.

Hope you can continue to post more here. Will read up more and comment whenever I can.

Thanks and have a great day.
Bro,
Tks!
Always think and act like a prize to all girls/women. What have you got to lose?

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Bro WB

Was reading thru your past post above. The famous 80:20 rule also applies to women intrested in men. Economics only taught us 80:20 rules.

***The 10 Rarest Qualities Of The Extinct Man***....this is very simple logic and easy to understand but difficult to do.

Please post more here so that we can all benefit from your valuable lessons.

Have a great day.

Cheers!
Bro,
Thanks for ur post!

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@TS - thank you for your reply.

Support here again.
Thank you!
Cheers!
Bro WB

...............................................

Good afternoon to all samsters!

Are you having enough pleasurable sex? If not, get as much as you possibly can. Do whatever it takes. But don't use force or do anything illegal, pls.

Why is pleasurable sex so important?

Because your life depends on it!

Let me share an email by a guru:

“Eroticism is the antidote to death”
- Esther Perel author ‘Mating in Captivity’



Your aliveness and vitality depend on pleasure.
 
Without eroticism, life loses meaning and purpose.
 
Your health and longevity depend upon it too!
 
No joke.
 
If you let sexual activity and connection fade away, your body takes it as an evolutionary signal to start shutting down.
 
“Hey hormones, biochemical factories, this body’s not a baby factory anymore. Only put resources where they’re needed!”
 
Whether you plan to procreate or not, in order to to operate at peak performance, with energy and creativity to spare, your body needs to believe it’s a hot and juicy sex machine.
 
Whether it’s self-pleasuring or intimate connection with a lover, are you prioritizing sexual pleasure?
 
Sex hormones are the hormones of life.
 
Orgasm releases a cascade of life enhancing chemicals and hormones:

Oxytocin, the love hormone, reduces anxiety and depression by lowering cortisol

Oxytocin also lowers carbohydrates cravings, so orgasm helps to regulate weight

Testosterone levels rise, adding fire to desire, improving mood, memory and sexual appeal

Prolactin release is responsible for causing stem cells in the brain to develop new neurons  

Have I got your attention?
 
Studies have shown that having sex 3 times a week or more, can add as much as 3 years to your life expectancy and make you look 10 years younger.
 
Are you seeing the benefits?
 
Do you have a plan for total sexual vitality, expression and fulfillment?
 
Do you think it would be a good idea to get one?



Any comments?

I won't advise masturbation. Watching porn has negative consequences, including ED when having sex w/ a real woman.

Cheers!

Bro WB
 
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Very interesting sharing by bro WB, support here!
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Very good thread by bro WB, support!!
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WB is a cheater
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Have I got your attention?
 
Studies have shown that having sex 3 times a week or more, can add as much as 3 years to your life expectancy and make you look 10 years younger.
 
Are you seeing the benefits?
 
Do you have a plan for total sexual vitality, expression and fulfillment?
 
Do you think it would be a good idea to get one?

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Any comments?

I won't advise masturbation. Watching porn has negative consequences, including ED when having sex w/ a real woman.

Cheers!

Bro WB
 
Yes, Boss WB...the above got my fullest attention.

I think I haven't had enough sex lately due to my busy schedule and poor health.

I hope to improve both counts soon. Hope to do more sex just liek you to love to 90 and still have sex with 18 years old syt.

Please post more anecdotes here so we all benefited form you.

Have a great weekend coming up soon.
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