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Old 29-10-2020, 09:37 PM
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Re: Exposing some of the ML or Spa tricks

Actually some of the SPA boss could be cheongster themselves. Every month spend money to go SPA, must well open 1 and make money from it and can also choose own gals.They also know the consumer mentality and behaviors. Hence they know how to play the price and mind game. The advertisement also hit right at the cheongster weakness and win them over. Not to mentioned newbies, even old bird also tempted.

We can see many posts here boycotting and condemning certain unethical business manner but yet there is no lack of people asking. where is the place? got contact? PM me? etc etc.

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Old 29-10-2020, 10:11 PM
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Had a similar experience, can try to just DIY in front of her, quite interesting if you find the drill of HJ while she’s looking
Do you have to pay her to look at you DIY? With these money-faced ML around I won't be surprised if she asked for $$
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Old 30-10-2020, 03:07 PM
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Do you have to pay her to look at you DIY? With these money-faced ML around I won't be surprised if she asked for $$
Agreed.

Unless you are a hunk or she is a sex craving addict or a curiosity cat, she will not sit there and watch you jerking off.
She will leave you cold in the room as she goes out and washes her hands, returns and prepares new towels for next customer.
Better ones will go and take a drink for you as you jerk in the room alone. no difference from at home.

But I met 2 which I manage to tell them.
OK lor, you dont or cant do then you just watch me do. You massage my thigh and stomach. Then see her shy face dont know where to look and I manage to cum all over her slender smooth fingers. The shock look and knee jerk effect from her body is better than HJ.
Free of course, bcos I DIY mah.
In the end, after more visits, both agree to help me as they see the sorry state of me not having happy ending.
No money was mentioned. Just help a poor brother

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Old 06-11-2020, 11:33 PM
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Re: Exposing some of the ML or Spa tricks

I observed the market price for SPA

$45 ~ $50
(Type 1 : Curtain type & No Toilet or Shower Room inside the unit. Go outside the shop)
(Type 2 : Curtain type, 1 common toilet with / without shower facilities inside the shop)
(Type 3 : Partition with sliding door comes with small glass window inside the shop)
It is as though its individual room but its actually partition. Every room comes with Mobile shower Capsule)

Don't let anyone tell you that they charge higher because you have a room or shower facilities


$55 ~ $60
(CBD area or more atas area or with TV, drinks and pool)

$68, $88 & $129
(Prostrate massage. Comes in different names. Same same but different. A gimmick for owner to make more money from customer. Who cares about facilities)

Therefore I noticed that if the location is not the atas type or with food or pool, the price should be about $50.
When you informed them that they are higher by $3, 5 or $8, the ML will mostly use the following

Push to the Boss Method
1) This is not I decide one, its boss.
2) This is not I earn, its the boss.

Antidote
Dont care who decide or who earns, as far as i am concerned, the money goes out from my pocket and it affects me.


Push to You Method
1) Its only so little money and you haggle over it
Antidote : yes, its little. can you absorb the difference?

2) this is the rule and everyone pays, we cannot change becos of you.
Antedote : Fine, dont change the rule then and I also wont change my principle because of you. Pls cancel the appointment.

Actually this just happened to me today hence i posted this before i forget.
I told her to cancelled and she said 没事.
I replied and said sorry and realized that she has blocked me. Although she seems OK, she is actually in anger.
So when the PRC said 没事 is not really 没事.

Some shops in the same area actually has a HJ cartel.
They agreed on the price and come to a common agreement on the price and service.
Customers are screwed

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Old 07-11-2020, 06:37 AM
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Re: Exposing some of the ML or Spa tricks

Well said & agree to all your points.
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Old 07-11-2020, 09:57 AM
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Well said & agree to all your points.
Agree with who?
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Old 07-11-2020, 10:24 AM
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Re: Exposing some of the ML or Spa tricks

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Not sure if anyone has written abt this but anywhere oir money has become more and more hard earned so we need to spend wisely and fruitfully.

1. Is prostrate massage really worth it?
Price at 88 per hr (they just love to play number 8).
The actual prostrate is only last 15mins?
Total damage is 88+50 for a HJ. That's expensive
Some don't even do HJ and you left high and dry after 88.

2. ML hard pull calling out to u in their wechat moments 3 times a day.
If no response, she will ask again. Don't be too happy and think they miss you. They actually miss your money.

3. Sales target
Some shops has sales target for the ML. So you can see them rushing at the end of the month if still shortfall.

4. 欢场无真情
Remember this. When they want to quit, their heart already left here.
Don't be a sucker and listen to the sad stories.
The more hardcore the more commercial she is.
Some left the shore don't even inform you.

5.Delay technique to increase profit
Kena one before in TPY. Play hard to get and extend time then agree to do HJ.
Total damage was a 3 figure sum. Write off that shop and gal but it was a good HJ bcos she take her time to HJ after I extended by 30mins.

Anymore anyone?
Hi bro, thank you for creating this thread for us cheongsters to share invaluable experiences. With reference to point number 1. My experience was that I must opt for the 88 package otherwise the masseur cannot turn me around. Case in point, spa in Ang Mo Kio.

Like to clarify on point number 4. Do you mean when they quit, they left their heart in their home country? Also do you imply the more 'pornlike' her skills or performace is, the more commercial she is?
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Old 07-11-2020, 10:47 AM
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Agree with who?
Bro , obviously you lah !
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Old 07-11-2020, 10:53 AM
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Bubble bath has the similar feeling as some one showering for you.

They will wet your body using water, then use sponge with soap. After that sponge you up using the soap to create bubbles. They do front and back. After soaping, some will help to clean, Some ask you go shower. It is similar to 磨砂 by using soap.

It is not even massage. In layman, just wasted the time (30 min - 60 min) for them to play sponge on your body.

Ml is fully clothed.

The bubble bath happened on the same massage bed that you going to use for massage.
Sounds like the spa @ AMK that offers this ... sheer wa$te of money.
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the masseur cannot turn me around. Case in point, spa in Ang Mo Kio.

Do you mean when they quit, they left their heart in their home country?

Also do you imply the more 'pornlike' her skills or performace is, the more commercial she is?
Cannot turnover? That's blackmail. Knowing that by that time we are high and dry. I hv reached a level of wasting 50 and walk out rather than succumb to their pressure tactics.

I hv encountered similar, they waste all the time on the back and say no time to do in front unless we add hours.

Or they touch a bit and let me know the difference bweteen normal and baoyang

Back to pt 4,
Before they left which can be as early as 6 months before , they are preparing for the flights, life after Singapore, family and how to maximise the balance time in Singapore, do you think still got mood to work? Her heart is in China except body is still here.

Commercial can be in skills which u hv mentioned and can be in behaviour like smooth talking, mind games and mindset. We are no match for them, they are ruthless bcos of where they come from and we are gullible bcos we are frog in the well. Some may come here innocently and transformed into commercial ML. It's a natural process unless she is so good that won't change by the enviroments.

Hope I answer your questions.
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Hi bro, thank you for creating this thread for us cheongsters to share invaluable experiences. With reference to point number 1. My experience was that I must opt for the 88 package otherwise the masseur cannot turn me around. Case in point, spa in Ang Mo Kio.

Like to clarify on point number 4. Do you mean when they quit, they left their heart in their home country? Also do you imply the more 'pornlike' her skills or performace is, the more commercial she is?
Not only the one in AMK, same goes for Yue Yuan, Tao Yuan, Fave, Grandeur, Le Mandarin, Spa 9, etc.
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Not only the one in AMK, same goes for Yue Yuan, Tao Yuan, Fave, Grandeur, Le Mandarin, Spa 9, etc.
Add Green Spa, cheap to go in but costly to come out.
Especially the Malaysia XMM. Smooth talking lucky Uncle is not stupid.
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Add Green Spa, cheap to go in but costly to come out.
Especially the Malaysia XMM. Smooth talking lucky Uncle is not stupid.
Same for Southern spa @ AMK. Their signature massages are Korean slow massage and Oasis massage. I wonder who is so gullible to fall into their gimmicky! 🙄🤣😂
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Cannot turnover? That's blackmail. Knowing that by that time we are high and dry. I hv reached a level of wasting 50 and walk out rather than succumb to their pressure tactics.

I hv encountered similar, they waste all the time on the back and say no time to do in front unless we add hours.

Or they touch a bit and let me know the difference bweteen normal and baoyang

Back to pt 4,
Before they left which can be as early as 6 months before , they are preparing for the flights, life after Singapore, family and how to maximise the balance time in Singapore, do you think still got mood to work? Her heart is in China except body is still here.

Commercial can be in skills which u hv mentioned and can be in behaviour like smooth talking, mind games and mindset. We are no match for them, they are ruthless bcos of where they come from and we are gullible bcos we are frog in the well. Some may come here innocently and transformed into commercial ML. It's a natural process unless she is so good that won't change by the enviroments.

Hope I answer your questions.
Yup bro, she claimed management is constantly walking around monitoring the rooms. So if any customer who took a normal package, was seen laying on their back, management will disrupt the session and the masseur will be reprimanded. That is somewhat a shocking revelation to me.
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Thanks a lot for the tips bro!
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